#30. Willis Reed

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NBA MVP: 1x (’70)

NBA Finals MVP: 2x (’70, ’73)

NBA All-1^st Team: 1x (’70)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 4x (’67, ’68, ’69, ‘71)

NBA All-Defensive 1^st Team: 1x (’70)

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1x (’65)

NBA All-Rookie 1^st Team: 1x (’65)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1x (’70)

NBA All-Star: 7x (’65, ’66, ’67, ’68, ’69, ’70, ‘71)

NBA Win Shares Leader: 1x (’69)

NBA WS/48 Leader: 1x (’69)

NBA Defensive Win Shares Leader: 1x (’69)

NBA Top 10 Points: 2x (’65, ‘67)

NBA Top 10 Rebounds: 6x (’65, ’66, ’67, ’68, ’69, ‘70)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 4x (’68, ’69, ’70, ‘71)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 4x (’68, ’69, ’70, ‘71)

Best Player on One Champion: ’70 Knicks

2^nd Best Player on One Champion: ’73 Knicks

2^nd Best Player on One Runner-Up: ’72 Knicks

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 30th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 32nd

Despite Chamberlain still being in the league, or Kareem entering the league, it was Reed who, for at least a brief moment, took the NBA Big Man Championship belt after Russell retired. At his peak, Reed was probably the best center in basketball, averaging a 25-14 in 28 playoff games against Unseld, Russell, Kareem and Wilt.

It also can’t be understated how big of an impact Reed has on his teammates and the city of New York. His big moment…”Here Comes Willis” in Game 7 of the 1970 Finals swayed the entire series (and somehow Wilt didn’t take advantage of Reed playing with a torn quad).

Reed would be higher, but his career was a bit short (650 games) and as a result, like Frazier he wasn’t great for a long time. But he was great.

#29. Rick Barry

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NBA Finals MVP: 1x (’75)

NBA All-1^st Team: 5x (’66, ’67, ’74, ’75, ‘76)

ABA All-1^st Team: 4x (’69, ’70, ’71, ’72)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 1x (‘73)

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1x (’66)

NBA All-Rookie 1^st Team: 1x (’66)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1x (’67)

NBA All-Star: 8x (’66, ’67, ’73, ’74, ’75, ’76, ’77, ’78)

ABA All-Star: 4x (’69, ’70, ’71, ’72)

NBA Points Leader: 1x (’67)

NBA Steals Leader: 1x (’75)

NBA Top 10 Points: 6x (’66, ’67, ’74, ’75, ’76, ‘78)

ABA Top 10 Points: 2x (’71, ’72)

NBA Top 10 Rebounds: 1x (’66)

NBA Top 10 Steals: 4x (’74, ’75, ’76, ’77)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 5x (’66, ’67, ’74, ’75, ‘76)

ABA Top 10 Win Shares: 2x (’69, ’72)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 4x (’66, ’67, ’74, ‘75)

ABA Top 10 WS/48: 2x (’70, ’71)

NBA + ABA Career Points: 21^st

ABA Career PPG: 1st

Best Player on One Champion: ’75 Warriors

Best Player on One Runner-Up: ’67 Warriors

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 26th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 21st

There are two trains of thought about Barry. The first is that he’s one of the top three best offensive forwards in basketball history with Larry Bird and LeBron James. He was a great passer, a great shooter (scoring 35.6 PPG in ’67) and overall just a great player. He was the best player on a tea that took the ’67 Sixers to six games in the NBA Finals and outright won a NBA Title in 1975.

The second? He was probably the biggest asshole in the history of professional basketball. Before you think that doesn’t matter, here’s why it does. Not only did Barry throw away a potential Championship (1976 Western Conference Finals, Barry stopped shooting after a fight with Ricky Sobers allegedly because his teammates didn’t have his back and they dropped Game 7 to the 42-40 Suns), he also lost five years of his prime in the ABA just to follow around his father-in-law. He would abandon the Warriors again later in his career too. If his teammates got along with him, and Barry wasn’t a jerk, could the Warriors have been an early 70s dynasty? Maybe, right?

#28. Bob Cousy

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NBA MVP: 1x (’57)

NBA All-1^st Team: 10x (’52, ’53, ’54, ’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ‘61)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 2x (’62, ‘63)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2x (’54, ‘57)

NBA All-Star: 13x (’51, ’52, ’53, ’54, ’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ‘63)

NBA Assists Leader: 8x (’53, ’54, ’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60)

NBA Top 10 Points: 8x (’51, ’52, ’53, ’54, ’55, ’56, ’57, ’59)

NBA Top 4 Assists: 13x (’51, ’52, ’53, ’54, ’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ‘63)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 3x (’52, ’57, ‘59)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 2x (’57, ‘59)

NBA Career Assists: 16th

2^nd Best Player on Six Champions: ’57 Celtics, ’59 Celtics, ’60 Celtics, ’61 Celtics, ’62 Celtics, ’63 Celtics

2^nd Best Player on One Runner-Up: ’58 Celtics

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 21st

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 24th

The first real point guard in NBA history, Cousy was the first version of guards like Nash. While clearly the best point guard of his era, I can’t rank him much higher as we’re talking about the 50s and early 60s here. I also can’t rank him much higher because before Russell showed up, Cousy’s Celtics teams were losing in the playoffs every year. Still, once Russel showed up Cousy was able to run the offense and help win titles, and that justifies the Top 30 ranking.

#27. John Stockton

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NBA All-1^st Team: 2x (’94, ‘95)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 6x (’88, ’89, ’90, ’92, ’93, ‘96)

NBA All-3^rd Team: 3x (’91, ’97, ’99)

NBA All Defensive 2^nd Team: 5x (’89, ’91, ’92, ’95, ’97)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1x (‘93)

NBA All-Star: 10x (’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ’00)

NBA Assists Leader: 9x (’88, ’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ‘96)

NBA Steals Leader: 2x (’89, ’92)

NBA Offensive Rating Leader: 3x (’96, ’00, ’01)

NBA Top 10 Assists: 17x (’86, ’87, ’88, ’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ’99, ’00, ’01, ’02, ’03)

NBA Top 10 Steals: 15x (’86, ’87, ’88, ’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ’00, ’02, ’03)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 11x (’88, ’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ‘00)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 14x (’88, ’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ’98, ’99, ’00, ’01, ’02)

NBA Top 10 Offensive Rating: 12x (’88, ’89, ’90, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ’98, ’99, ’00, ’01, ’02)

NBA Career Assists: 1^st

NBA Career Steals: 1^st

NBA Career Points: 41^st

NBA Career Offensive Rating: 4^th

NBA Career Win Shares: 5th

2^nd Best Player on Two Runner-Ups: ’97 Jazz, ’98 Jazz

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 25th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 22nd

Bill Simmons nailed it on the head: Stockton was often very very good, but rarely great and had some luck towards the end of his career. Like Ewing, Stockton was often in a slightly lesser class than his contemporaries. You’d never put Stockton in the same class of Magic or Isiah. He would sometimes end up behind Kevin Johnson, Mark Price, Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond and Penny Hardaway on All-NBA Teams. Gary Payton took the best PG in the NBA championship belt from him pretty much the moment he was ready to (and proved it in the 1996 Western Conference Finals where he destroyed Stockton). Simmons claims assists were easier to get in the early 90s, but I don’t know how true that actually is.

Why is Stockton so high then? Well, he was very good for very long. While I normally would take elite peaks over a long period of very good (like we did with Durant), Stockton’s was so long that it was hard to ignore. Plus, it wasn’t like he was just another good PG, he was still the 2^nd best PG in the NBA in the late 90s. Of course, luck had a big factor in that too. Other than Payton, all the other point guards of the 90s fell apart, and it wasn’t until Kidd and others showed up that point guard became deep again. Stockton’s head to head match-ups. In the late 90s, after the ’96 Conference Finals against Payton, he avoided any top tier point guard. In the 1997 playoffs, we went up against Derrick Martin, Nick Van Exel, Matt Maloney and Steve Kerr. In ’98 it was Maloney, Avery Johnson, Van Exel and Kerr.

Lucky as that seems, there is one thing that I think could have helped Stockton greatly. If Stockton came along ten years later, I think he benefits the same way (if not better than) Steve Nash did when he won two straight MVPs. I don’t mean to discredit Stockton. He was still the most fundamentally sound PG ever and he helped Karl Malone greatly.

#26. David Robinson

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NBA MVP: 1x (’95)

NBA All-1^st Team: 4x (’91, ’92, ’95, ’96)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 2x (’94, ‘98)

NBA All-3^rd Team: 4x (’90, ’93, ’00, ‘01)

NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1x (’92)

NBA All Defensive 1^st Team: 4x (’91, ’92, ’95, ’96)

NBA All Defensive 2^nd Team: 4x (’90, ’93, ’94, ‘98)

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1x (’90)

NBA All-Rookie 1^st Team: 1x (’90)

NBA All-Star: 10x (’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’98, ’00, ‘01)

NBA Points Leader: 1x (’94)

NBA Rebounds Leader: 2x (’91, ’96)

NBA Blocks Leader: 2x (’91, ’92)

NBA PER Leader: 3x (’94, ’95, ’96)

NBA Win Shares Leader: 2x (’94, ’95)

NBA WS/48 Leader: 5x (’94, ’95, ’98, ’99, ’01)

NBA Offensive Win Shares Leader: 2x (’94, ’95)

NBA Defensive Win Shares Leader: (’91, ’95, ’96)

NBA Defensive Rating Leader: 5x (’92, ’96, ’98, ’99, ’00)

NBA Top 10 Points: 6x (’90, ’91, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96)

NBA Top 10 Rebounds: 8x (’90, ’91, ’93, ’95, ’96, ’98, ’99, ’00)

NBA Top 10 Blocks: 11x (’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’98, ’99, ’00, ’01)

NBA Top 10 Steals: 2x (’92, ‘95)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 11x (’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’98, ’99, ’00, ’01)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 12x (’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’98, ’99, ’00, ’01, ‘02)

NBA Top 10 Offensive Rating: 2x (’94, ‘95)

NBA Top 10 Defensive Rating: 13x (’90, ’91, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’98, ’99, ’00, ’01, ’02, ’03)

NBA Career Points: 36th

NBA Career Blocks: 6th

NBA Career Rebounds: 30^th

NBA Career PER: 4th

NBA Career Offensive Rating: 28^th

NBA Career Defensive Rating: 4th

NBA Career Win Shares: 12th

2^nd Best Player on One Champion: ’99 Spurs

Role Player on One Champion: ’03 Spurs

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 25th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 29th

The question about Robinson is this: how much does a killer instrict, or lack thereof, matter in basketball? In Robinson’s case it seemed to matter a lot. Despite jaw dropping statistics at points of his career (he has a 23-12-2-4.5 season) when push came to shove Robinson seemed to come up short. Robinson got to be the face of the 1988 US Olympic Team…the team that shockingly won the Bronze and let to the Dream Team. He took a couple of years off to fulfill his military commitments…turned the Spurs around and led them to season after season of early playoff exits (in his first ever Game 7, he put up a 20-16…but shot 7 for 21 in a tough three point loss to the Blazers with Kevin Duckworth as the opposing center). The next year his Spurs were shocked by the seventh seeded Run TMC Warriors.

When Michael Jordan retired for the first time, the field was wide open. Could Robinson become the alpha dog of the NBA? He already was dominating the league statistically.

No. In 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon took the torch from Jordan, and the Spurs lost an opening round series despite homecourt advantage.

David Robinson won the NBA MVP in 1995. This time he finally got the Spurs to the Conference Finals. Then he was destroyed by Hakeem. And that was that. Despite a great ’96 season the Spurs would go through another early playoff loss, and then Robinson went down in 1997. Tim Duncan, who never was statistically dominant as Robinson had the killer instinct Robinson lacked. Duncan would lead the Spurs to the title in 1999 (and again in 2003). Robinson was a great 2^nd guy in ’99, but he was a mere role player in 2003.

So what happened? This was someone that according to Simmons had been up in trade discussion for Jordan! This is someone with a 71 point game and a quadruple double! I guess a killer instinct does matter. Robinson had the potential to be one of the best, if not the best ever, but instead he’s merely great. How weird is it that being great is considered a disappointment?

#25. Elgin Baylor

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NBA All-1^st Team: 10x (’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65, ’67, ’68, ‘69)

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1x (’59)

NBA All-Rookie 1^st Team: 1x (’59)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1x (’59)

NBA All-Star: 11x (’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65, ’67, ’68. ’69)

NBA PER Leader: 1x (’61)

NBA Top 10 Points: 10x (’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65, ’67, ’68, ‘69)

NBA Top 10 Rebounds: 7x (’59, ’60, ‘61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65)

NBA Top 10 Assists: 4x (’59, ’61, ’63, ’65)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 4x (’59, ’60, ’61, ‘63)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 4x (’60, ’61, ’62, ’63)

NBA Career Points: 28^th

Best Player on One Runner-Up: ’59 Lakers

2^nd Best Player on Seven Runner-Ups: ’62 Lakers, ’63 Lakers, ’65 Lakers, ’66 Lakers, ’68 Lakers, ’69 Lakers, ’70 Lakers

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 15th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 12th

Most difficult player for me to rank for sure. I have tons of respect for Jerry West and can’t look past the fact that Baylor retired and the Lakers finally won the title after that.

Baylor put up some holy shit stats in na era of racism (as we’ll get to with Oscar) and while also performing military. How crazy is that? At the same time, we know not to put that much stock into statistics at that time. Baylor helped show that the NBA game was more of a vertical one than a horizontal one…but does that mean he’s a top 15 guy like everyone else seems to think. I don’t know. For some reason, I don’t think so.

#24: John Havlicek

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NBA Finals MVP: 1x (’74)

NBA All-1^st Team: 4x (’71, ’72, ’73, ’74)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 7x (’64, ’66, ’68, ’69, ’70, ’75, ’76)

NBA All-Star: 13x (’66, ’67, ’68, ’69, ’70, ’71, ’72, ’73, ’74, ’75, ’76, ’77, ‘78)

NBA Top 10 Points: 6x (’64, ’67, ’70, ’71, ’72, ’73)

NBA Top 10 Assists: 7x (’68, ’69, ’70, ’71, ’72, ’73, ’74)

Top 10 Win Shares: 6x (’67, ’70, ’71, ’72, ’73, ’74)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 1x (’73)

NBA Top 10 PER: 4x (’67, ’70, ’71, ’72)

NBA Top 10 Defensive Win Shares: 11x (’63, ’64, ’65, ’66, ’67, ’68, ’69, ’70, ’71, ’72, ’73)

NBA Career Points: 13^th

NBA Career Assists: 32^nd

2^nd or 3^rdBest Player on Seven Champions: ’64 Celtics, ’65 Celtics, ’66 Celtics, ’68 Celtics, ’69 Celtics, ’74 Celtics, ’76 Celtics

Role Player on One Champion: ’63 Celtics

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 14th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 17th

Had a modern game, perhaps more modern than Baylor. I take him above Baylor though for succeeding a little later, being a part of Championship teams and also for being a great defensive player. Havlicek was also known for making clutch plays…for example “Havlicek steals the ball”.

He’s just as difficult to rank as Baylor considering the era he peaked in and a question of how well his game would translate to today, modern or not. Like Baylor, his Advanced Metrics aren’t anything special. Still one of the all-time great Celtics though.

#23: Bob Pettit

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NBA MVP: 2x (’56, ’59)

NBA All-1^st Team: 10x (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 1x (’65)

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1x (’55)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 4x (’56, ’58, ’59, ’62)

NBA All-Star: 11x (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65)

NBA Points Leader; 2x (’56, ’59)

NBA Rebounds Leader: 1x (’56)

NBA Win Shares Leader: 1x (’59)

NBA PER Leader: 4x (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59)

NBA Top 5 Points: 10x: (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64)

NBA Top 5 Rebounds: 10x: (‘55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 10x (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 11x (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65)

NBA Top 5 PER: 11x (’55, ’56, ’57, ’58, ’59, ’60, ’61, ’62, ’63, ’64, ’65)

NBA Career Points: 35^th

NBA Career Rebounds: 17th

Best Player on One Champion: ’58 Hawks

Best Player on Three Runner-Ups: ’57 Hawks, ’60 Hawks, ’61 Hawks

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 17th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 14th

Why Pettit over Baylor? Pettit did more (like win the Championship) with a lot less than Baylor had to work with. Pettit dominated for a solid decade and didn’t falter when Russell entered the league. He was clearly the top dog before Russell, winning a pair of MVPs and being a mainstay on the 1^st team. He also gets the nod over Havlicek simply for because of better Advanced Metrics as well.

Why is Pettit so low? Unlike Baylor, Pettit’s game probably wouldn’t work today. It’s a small detriment. But Pettit beat whomever was in front of him (including Russell) and there’s something to be said about that.

#22: Scottie Pippen

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NBA All-1^st Team: 3x (’94, ’95, ’96)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 2x (’92, ‘97)

NBA All-3^rd Team: 2x (’93, ’98)

NBA All-Defensive 1^st Team: 8x (’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ’98, ’99)

NBA All-Defensive 2^nd Team: 2x (’91, ’00)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1x (’94)

NBA All-Star: 7x (’90, ’92, ’93, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97)

NBA Steals Leader: 1x (’95)

NBA Defensive Rating Leader: 1x (’95)

NBA Top 10 Points: 2x (’92, ’95)

NBA Top 10 Assists: 1x (’92)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 5x (’92, ’94, ’95, ’96, ’97)

NBA Top 10 WS/48: 5x (’94, ’95, ’96, ’97, ‘98)

NBA Top 10 Defensive Rating: 5x (’91, ’92, ’94, ’95, ’96)

NBA Career Steals: 6th

NBA Career Assists: 30th

2^nd Best Player on Six Champions: ’91 Bulls, ’92 Bulls, ’93 Bulls, ’96 Bulls, ’97 Bulls, ’98 Bulls

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 24th

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 27th

There are two trains of thought when it comes to Scottie Pippen.

#1: Overrated. Only succeeded because he player with Michael Jordan.

#2: Most destructive perimeter defender off all-time. Best 2^nd banana of all-time. The best all-around player of his generation.

I’m in camp #2. Did Pippen benefit by playing with Jordan? Of course he did. But he learned from that. Playing with Jordan allowed Pippen to be one of the most focused players in NBA history. When Scottie Pippen locked you down…he locked you down. There wasn’t anything you could do about it. Since the advent of the three point line, only two players have ever led the NBA in Defensive Rating that wasn’t a power forward or center. Kawki Leonard did it last season (14-15). The other is Scottie Pippen. Consider that in Pippen’s prime you had great defensive players like Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Dikembe Mutombo, Gary Payton and even Michael Jordan. The fact that Pippen never won a Defensive Player of the Year award was astonishing.

Last bit about Scottie, his 1994 season was brilliant. Losing Jordan for nothing, Scottie led the Bulls to 55 wins and arguably was cheated out of a trip to the Conference Finals. He led his team in five categories. He also was a major part in taking the 2000 Trail Blazers to Game 7 of the Western Conference Finals. Jordan didn’t play on either of those teams.

#21: Isiah Thomas

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NBA Finals MVP: 1x (’90)

NBA All-1^st Team: 3x (’84, ’85, ’86)

NBA All-2^nd Team: 2x (’83, ’87)

NBA All-Rookie 1^st Team: 1x (’82)

NBA All-Star Game MVP: 12x (’84, ‘86)

NBA All-Star: 12x (’82, ’83, ’84, ’85, ’86, ’87, ’88, ’89, ’90, ’91, ’92, ‘93)

NBA Assists Leader: 2x (’84, ’85)

NBA Top 10 Points: 1x (’83)

NBA Top 10 Assists: 10x (’82, ’83, ’84, ’85, ’86, ’87, ’88, ’89, ’90, ‘93)

NBA Top 10 Win Shares: 1x (’85)

NBA Career Assists: 7th

Best Player on Two Champions: ’89 Pistons, ’90 Pistons

Simmons Pyramid Ranking (2010): 23rd

Slam Magazine 500 Ranking (2011): 19th

I hope you’re ready to throw Advanced Metrics out the window for this one. Bill Simmons points out that when the Pistons clinch the Championship, the entire team raises him to the sky, clearing indicating who their leader was. Despite stats saying otherwise, Isiah is what made those Pistons teams go.

It’s hard to give Isiah’s career proper justice because some of his stats are so bad. In fact, when the Detroit won the title, Isiah’s counting stats weren’t close to his peaks. Yet there Detroit was each year in the late 80s, contending for the title. To be clear though, a list of 80s stars would go Magic, Bird, Jordan…then Isiah. And let’s not forget when the 1992 Dream Team was selected there was outrage about Stockton making it over him.

Of course, it doesn’t change that Isiah was great when he needed to be. Isiah damn near broke his ankle (officially a severe sprain) in Game 6 of the 1988 Finals, yet he gutted it out and scored 25 in the third quarter in what was a one point loss. He also dropped 16 points in the 90 seconds in a playoff game against the Knicks. Just amazing clutch performances.